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Davis Mills will never make the playoffs lol
Davis Mills won't be in the NFL in 3 years😂🤣💯
100% he will be at a superbowl he is going to buy a ticket but you know he will be there
Mills seems quite similar to matt Ryan to me. We all know Ryan could have won a super bowl. I'd give him maybe 10-15%
I think that they can be useful but at the bottom line is how the team likes him and how the team plays around the player.
It would be cool if you could use the advanced stats and come up with a weighted value of importance for each stat, develop an equation that encompasses all of the weighted values, and then rank all of the QBs using this system to determine if this system lines up with people's perceived rankings,
With all of that said I think the biggest issue with these advanced stats is that it doesn't seem like any of them take into account the team they are playing with and the talent around them.
Advanced stats along with regular stats are a great tool when paired with film. You need the film along with the stats to get a more complete picture and vice versa.
Always keep advanced analytics in mind, its not the end all be all but make sure you know the information
Advanced stats can be very useful. Helps create a bigger picture in what we're looking for
Advanced stats are useful tools but should never be used in a vacuum. For instance, Raiders vs Eagles last year, PFF ranked Jalen Hurts higher than Carr.
Carr
31-34
323 Yards 2 TD 1 INT
0 Sacks
0 Fumbles
Hurts
18-34
236 Yards
2 TD 0 INT
2 Sacks
1 Fumble lost
60 yards rushing
Additionally most of the Eagles offense came well into the 4th quarter when they were down 30-7. I'd also argue Carr's interception wasn't even his fault since Foster Moreau stopped running his route like TE.exe crashed.
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Advanced stats feel more useful in some positions and others.
Can Davis Mills win a SuperBowl?? Does a bull have nuts??
I'm not a big fan of advanced stats. They can be useful if used properly, but in general you're either making granular divisions and trying to decipher what's actually important, or you're cramming several different stats into a single opaque number, whose value depends entirely on what went into making the sausage.
Texans GREATEST team ever. Super bowl WINNER for sure this year and the next one times infinity. Mills greatest GOAT ever and we all know this. DYNASTY indeed👇
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advanced stats are great, but i think they need to be treated a still developing field with a long ways to go rather than something that gives us all the answers immediately
Advanced stats are great when you are initially looking at a player. Get a grasp of how well they perform as a player but you can’t define a player by their advanced stats. Film is absolutely necessary to truly understand a player but advanced stats are great for an initial outlook for a player.
Uh oh… here you go again lol… If Mills is not your guy why are u focusing on him? You should be discussing your hero Zach Wilson lol… Anyway, Mills is the Man! No sense is dragging it out let's just watch and see! Get your popcorn ready!!! 🙂
Davis Mills and the Texans will win MULTIPLE superbowls!! #MarkMyWord
The Texans have a plan B in my opinion. They are going to give Mills a chance to be the starter this year and if he doesn't play really well then they will draft one of the top QB's in next year's draft. They will most likely have another very high pick in next year's draft and they also have plenty of draft capital to move up in the draft to get whatever QB they want if they feel the need to do that
I actually really like advanced stats. They can tell you a lot of useful information to distinguish players and predict strategy. Like for example Tom Brady's qbr for the 156 scale over the last 10 years with Rob Gronkowski is 103 while without it's 88. Those types of stats can be a lot more telling then for example passing yard stats. Jamies Winston led the league in passing in 2019 followed by Prescott and Goff. But what does that on its face conclude? Not much imo.
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Advanced stats are a great way to get a lot of information quickly. They don't show the whole picture sometimes, but they seem to be good predictors of success/failure in general.
The problem when most people talk about Mills isn't about the probability of him winning a superbowl or even fair criticisms of his first year. The problem I have are the arbitrary ceilings assigned to him and the piss-poor reasons why. I mean for example the criticism of his college career made absolutely no sense whatsoever. If you actually do a little study on Mills not only was he ranked the number 1 QB coming out of HS and ran into some injuries that stunted his college career, but he just showed excellent progress and veteran level processing regardless of having a limited college career and being in similarly bad situations as the other rookies. But somehow people still say he has a lower ceiling because of something that hasn't even been shown at the NFL level. I don't think he has the arm talent of most of the other class in terms of putting zip on the ball or rocketing it on the run but not every QB needs that. Mills is a pocket passer first with mobility. He wins via the cerebral game and I said it the week he was drafted that the main thing he needs to show this year is the cerebral game and he did just that. He's not as good of a thrower as Carr but is a more consistent decision maker. He's not as refined as Cousins but has shown more cerebrally early on and honestly seems to have better intangibles. People are wayyyy underrating his ceiling, NOT HIM AS A PLAYER NOW but his ceiling. Will he get there? Who knows but I trust Caserio to do everything he can to help.
Secondly the Texans DO NOT NEED ANY OTHER QBs THIS YEAR. What would be the point when you need to fill the roster in other places. They are committed to giving Mills the year and if that doesn't work out then they have 2 first round picks to get a QB. Even if you mean they should get a bridge guy Mills is good enough to be a bridge. No logic or reasoning to go waste a pick on this years QB class.
I feel like people sound like idiots when they say upside of a qb, or limited upside.I would understand if they don't see someone progressing a lot since they havent seen progress in the past, and they've played a lot of recent games. Mills on the otherhand, what is he lacking upsidewise.
His rushing ability isn't great, but he isn't immobile. His arm strength is good. He can read a defense. Go through his progressions. Good anticipation. And he has shown that he can and has been improving. What is lacking his upside besides the fact people dont want to admit a 3rd round QB can be good.
NFL teams using advanced stats should tell you everything you need to know. Marvin Lewis mocked PFF and you see where that got him.
Advanced stats are great for keeping tabs on players that you don't watch consistently. But players on my favorite team that I watch a lot of film of, I don't even look into advanced stats. I just use film.
Advanced stats help, but I'm sure each has a team of people he trust to grade and Cypher through film like pff does, making most advanced stats not needed to use
I'd say there is about a 50% chance that he becomes 'Gardner Minshew' as the Texans might just replace him at QB regardless of whatever promise he might show because they'll have the opportunity next year. So for me thats the first hurdle.
The other hurdle is that the 2 models that win Super Bowls are the 'I have a top 3 QB with at least one HOF receiver' model and the 'we have a top 3 pass rush and a top 10 QB and f' them picks'. For many years, you'll need both models. For the Texans to have that 2nd one happening you are probably talking about nailing 2 out of the next 3 drafts to get on 'championship level' and then they'd have to make it through about 6-8 other teams on that level to win a SB. The Texans would in theory have multiple cracks at it but that rookie contract will only last so long and at that point the equation gets trickier.
Once you factor all that it, I'd guess its probably somewhere between 3%-4% Mills winning as a starter in Houston.
Stop it lol
No way Mills
The problem with the ceiling argument is you making it movable when it should be how close you can get to it so add up his pros and his improvements everybody’s ceiling is the same whether you reach it depends on the tools you acquire and how well you use them.