Did the New York Jets offer ENOUGH for Tyreek Hill? Yes & No! | Should Douglas shoulder any blame?

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  1. Play Like A Jet
    Play Like A Jet 23 March, 2022, 16:46

    Is Luke on the money? Or off the mark?

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  2. John Hepburn
    John Hepburn 23 March, 2022, 17:36

    Let’s draft Sauce and shut him down. He didn’t want to be here

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  3. Gary Avenoso
    Gary Avenoso 23 March, 2022, 17:41

    They absolutely offered enough. Hill choose the Dolphins. That's fine. They're also paying him 30 million aav. That's ludicrous. I don't care if it's Tyreek Hill or Davonte Adams, no reciever is worth that kind of money. All this reaffirms my opinion that Douglas missed the ball on Cooper and Woods. Their salaries aren't prohibitive and the trade comp could've been a 5th rd pick for either one. That's where he's gone wrong, not here. Hill is an elite wr but not worth that price or trade comp.

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  4. NYFANJAN
    NYFANJAN 23 March, 2022, 17:42

    Thank you Joe for NOT over paying for any player when you have a four win team in need of so many pieces and need at least four starters out of this draft.

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  5. Steve232
    Steve232 23 March, 2022, 17:51

    I agree

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  6. Jimmy Reacts!
    Jimmy Reacts! 23 March, 2022, 17:54

    No Brotha! It’s his contract extension. If he didn’t want to come to NY he wouldn’t sign the extension. So we give up all those picks for 1 year no. Wrong thinking

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  7. Franco Coniglione
    Franco Coniglione 23 March, 2022, 17:57

    The problem is Hill didn’t want to go to NY, regardless of what the Jets offered KC. If KC would of forced the trade to the Jets that would of been a bad decision. Hill may of not signed an extension.

    2 Reasons why he chose MIA over NYJ:
    1) No State Income Tax in Florida
    2) He already has a home in Miami in the off-season and he’s from Georgia.

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  8. Marc From Asbury Park
    Marc From Asbury Park 23 March, 2022, 18:04

    No state tax in Florida. That’s huge.

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  9. ursdj17
    ursdj17 23 March, 2022, 18:06

    I don’t know if the Jets paying more would have influenced KC. If Tyreek was offered Miami and has roots there, then didn’t get it, he could have threatened a hold out. We also don’t know if that was the actual trade proposal from Joe D.

    It confirms that Joe D is exploring every option as you desired in your videos. Clearly, every team is looking to move guys around so Joe can move on to the next option. I don’t know how experts would measure acquiring players, but to use that amount of draft capital and significant salary cap to add a player seems like a lot. Only a QB seems just for such a move. I can totally envision a scenario where Tyreek is flipping out because Tua and McDaniel suck! There was the video of him getting physical with the coach last season?

    Keep rockin the Grizzlies hat!

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  10. ABearNChess
    ABearNChess 23 March, 2022, 18:08

    Hill basically had a no trade clause and JD gave the man a blank check and he still chose Miami. I don't see where you're coming from.

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  11. South Brooklyn
    South Brooklyn 23 March, 2022, 18:10

    They offered enough to have KC accept the offer but ultimately Tyreke wanted to be in Miami

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  12. Jonathan Richter
    Jonathan Richter 23 March, 2022, 18:39

    I don't think you're a complete idiot, but I don't agree with you. I think you used the right word when you said it was a desperate move. I think JD and Bob are really wary of making moves from a position of desperation. 

    If the Jets were a Tyreke Hill away from competing for the SB, then I would agree with you. But coming off of 4 wins, knowing that we can take whichever WR we like at 10, the number of other holes that Joe has already filled and will fill in the draft. Lets keep our cap space going forward, get better this year (I'm hoping for 9 wins), and then next year we'll be an attractive destination with lots of cap space for all the free agent WRs in the 2023 league year. Instead of hoping for the table scraps, we'll have our pick of the litter.

    I also won't be surprised if Joe makes a draft day trade and acquires a WR. I think they probably bring back Keelan Cole. He knows the offense and has some chemistry with Zach. And there's always Denzel Mims….

    Patience, grasshopper.

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  13. Tariq Campbell
    Tariq Campbell 23 March, 2022, 19:14

    Damn
    Wow

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  14. Tariq Campbell
    Tariq Campbell 23 March, 2022, 19:15

    We could have pull the trigger

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  15. Kenny Vega
    Kenny Vega 23 March, 2022, 19:33

    he was never coming here the Jets could never match the money they have no state tax in Florida which makes their contract much more valuable

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  16. Rachel Williams
    Rachel Williams 23 March, 2022, 19:45

    I totally agree!!!!!!

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  17. Andre Thomas all gas
    Andre Thomas all gas 23 March, 2022, 20:08

    I think that the jets should go after dj Metcalf what do you think

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  18. Rich
    Rich 23 March, 2022, 20:21

    5 picks 120m?? NO THANKS

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  19. Wiljaq2
    Wiljaq2 23 March, 2022, 20:51

    I agree with you AND as much as I’d LOVE Tyreek with the Jets. Part of what makes him so great is Patrick Maholmes.

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  20. Mumtaz Shamsee
    Mumtaz Shamsee 23 March, 2022, 21:22

    I posted same elsewhere. There is no way Tyreek Hill is worth 5 starters. This is a joke to me.
    35, 38 and 69 + 30 million per = 3 decent starters from picks + 2 elite starters in FA (We could have had Marcus Williams & Allen Robinson) for that money.
    Tyreek Hill and Davante Adams could NOT take their LOADED teams to SB even with HOF QBs. They will somehow help us get there?
    Nah, we would have blown this precious capital for BS splashy move. SHAME ON JOE D for even considering it.

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  21. Kelvin Gissentanner jr
    Kelvin Gissentanner jr 23 March, 2022, 23:24

    I have to disagree you can’t worse a player to go somewhere they don’t want to be .. Tyreek hill had a say in where he was going because he was in the last year of his deal and no team is giving up that much draft capital without a extension…can’t blame joe on this one

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  22. TheMadKing
    TheMadKing 23 March, 2022, 23:26

    I think Joe Douglas played this just about as well as you could expect from any GM weighing the blockbuster move of trading for a guy like Tyreek Hill, with the need to retain enough draft capital because he realizes that a single wide receiver will not win us a Super Bowl.

    With that said, I wouldn’t have been upset if he gave #10 and #38 and went out and got him, especially since he went to the Dolphins. But it’s tough, because that’s a big swing and if it doesn’t pay dividends it sets us back years with the contract they gave him and lost draft capital. i’m just glad he realizes the need to win ASAP and is taking some swings

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  23. Joe Ferro
    Joe Ferro 24 March, 2022, 00:00

    Keep it real my dude .. Hill was always going home to Miami

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  24. TheOtherOne
    TheOtherOne 24 March, 2022, 00:09

    1. What a GOAT fan. Man wakes up at 3:30 am waits the full 2 hours to find out if his team is getting a top 5 wr.
    2. Saw a dude on Twitter say we should ignore your takes cause you're not American.
    Bro I downloaded Twitter just for FA 2 weeks ago and I see why people hate Twitter.
    It's the equivalent of the football player saying Mina Kimes Garroplo comment is trash Bec "she never played football".

    Absolute narsty bro. The fans know you a legend. We appreciate your content.

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  25. Ray Combest
    Ray Combest 24 March, 2022, 06:24

    Sometimes the best trades are the ones that aren't made. Time will tell and you can judge it by who Joe D picks with those draft picks. Trust the process.

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  26. Andrew Candela
    Andrew Candela 24 March, 2022, 06:27

    A point I heard on the radio was that the jets and Miami both couldn't afford his current contract. So if hill said no to an extension neither team could trade for him. Hence why KC offered the choice. It was kind of like he had a no trade clause. He had to want the extension wherever he went to restructure

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  27. Andrew Candela
    Andrew Candela 24 March, 2022, 06:36

    Here's a scenario. We make an offer they can't refuse but hill doesn't want to sign an extension with the jets. He decides to play out this year and see if he likes it, maybe sign in season. Jets now have to start cutting people to get that money. Rankins goes even though his leadership is needed, Corey Davis gets traded even though him and Zach are currently throwing. They ask Mosley to restructure and he's not ecstatic about that. GVR gets cut even though there isn't much depth. Then the draft comes and they have 3 less picks to fill the extra holes. Maybe some of those picks come back from the Corey Davis trade but not enough to fill out the roster. It's a big big gamble on a guy that you may have to franchise tag just to keep here making him unhappy.

    What I am saying is even if it is an overpay it comes down to hill and what he wants cause if he won't sign an extension in NY it wouldn't matter.

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  28. Serendipitous Slim
    Serendipitous Slim 24 March, 2022, 08:32

    I respect your opinions and love the channel, but in no way do I see this as being JD’s fault. He had a deal which KC accepted, which news sources said matched the salary point that Miami offered, and even did it in a way where we would still have our two first round picks. It was up to Tyreek to choose where he went. Clearly Kansas would have been happy with our offer, and no matter what price tag we dropped on his head, under no circumstances would Tyreek have never been presented the Miami deal. The KC office obviously has a lot of respect for him, he’s done so much for their team, and they left it up to him. Hill lives in Miami, he’s a southern boy from Georgia… maybe ten mill more a year would have made him face the cold, and hop on a less-playoff ready team, but would we really want to pay a WR 38 mill a year? In my opinion, no. Not to mention this guy’s a piece of shit with a litany of off-field problems and character issues, which DO translate over to the game. I could see him being cancerous to the locker room if the team isn’t winning. Only thing that really sucks about this is having to see him two times a year now. Hopefully he tears an ACL.

    Ultimately, I’ll take our picks and cap space. Maybe I’m just another delusional Jets fan, but I have faith in JD. After years of awful management, he seems to actually have a plan and is following through with it, instead of just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks like MacCagnan did and drafting garbage like Idzik did. We will find our No. 1 in this draft, have faith my friend 🙏🏼

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  29. dino cortina
    dino cortina 24 March, 2022, 11:46

    I'm certain that the Jets and Douglass DIDN'T KNOW what Miami's offer was. After he agreed on a package of picks with KC, what was he supposed to do, say 'We've agreed, but we'll up the offer if it clinches tge deal"?? Not realistic.

    The Jets offer was better than the Dolphins, and KC was probably going to give Hill a choice even if the Jets offer was higher than it came in.

    I'm sorry we didn't get a premier player, but JD made the best offer, and as good as Hill is, the idea of paying MORE picks AND giving Hill a HUGE extension AND losing the ability to fill in other holes because you traded those picks does NOT seem too smart. Hill wasn't putting us in the Super Bowl, we still have a team to build. I feel better knowing JD is doing things in the right way.

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  30. brandon foote
    brandon foote 24 March, 2022, 12:15

    I agree. We should have tried harder to get hill

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  31. Busted Knuckles
    Busted Knuckles 24 March, 2022, 13:32

    Thank you!! This is exactly what I've been saying. You don't let this deal get to Miami. It is what it is

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  32. Smoke Stack
    Smoke Stack 24 March, 2022, 16:37

    It had nothing to do with what jets offered, KC accepted both deals, but it was Hills decision what deal they received as compensation. This does not have to be analyzed so much, it’s straight forward, Hill chose Miami.

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  33. David Shaulov
    David Shaulov 24 March, 2022, 18:18

    Good videos

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  34. B C
    B C 24 March, 2022, 19:45

    He never considered the Jets, so it irrelevant what the Jets offered! It was up to Hill as he would have never signed an extension to play for the Jets. Why over pay for a RENTAL?

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  35. Anthony Matthew
    Anthony Matthew 24 March, 2022, 21:22

    That was never going to happen where the Chiefs was going to not allow Hill to choose his destination. Let's stop with this ridiculous thought process that JD should've over payed and make the Chiefs block him from picking his team. 1) That was never going to happen. 2) The guy lives in Miami during the off season. 3) No tax and warm weather. He was NEVER comimg to the Jets!! It's time for us as Jets fans to get over it and move forward and focus on the draft.

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  36. robert morse
    robert morse 24 March, 2022, 21:32

    You cannot blame the jets for this. The jets had their package excepted first. Miami came a day later with that large deal. After that, it was Miami all the way.

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  37. Ara Melikian
    Ara Melikian 25 March, 2022, 13:55

    Dude let it go….you do know he broke his son's arm. He's a POS.

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  38. charlie zarrell
    charlie zarrell 25 March, 2022, 14:42

    Sorry but you are wrong here. Jets were never in play. Tyreek even said it was always Miami. He lives in FL where there is no state tax. Jets bid just made Mia match. KC was not going to dictate team to Tyreek.

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  39. Gang Green Pallas
    Gang Green Pallas 27 March, 2022, 09:38

    I am not normally a conspiracy guy, but I believe the Jets had zero chance of getting him, regardless. I think the way it played out was that Drew Rosenhaus knew the Jets wouldn't make the deal if there was no extension and purposely stalled extension talks so another team could swoop in. It was simply a PR move to keep his client from having to say he didn't want to play for the Jets.

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