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  1. Rocky Moran
    Rocky Moran 21 September, 2021, 13:28

    Could having an owner be holding the Detroit Lions back??

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  2. Cloud Strife
    Cloud Strife 21 September, 2021, 13:45

    The trade for Moss involved Rodgers being traded.

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  3. David Montgomery
    David Montgomery 21 September, 2021, 13:58

    All of this could be solved by electing more ambitious board members. It has nothing to do with the ownership structure itself. There's plenty of owners even less ambitious than the crew in Green Bay. All of us Bengals fans for example are well aware that Mike Brown doesn't even care about the team being passable, let alone competing for a Super Bowl, so long as he's lining his pockets. Frankly, every NFL team should have the Packers ownership structure. This is what leads to historic teams with great fanbases abandoning their cities like what happened to Oakland, Baltimore, and Cleveland. The problem is that NFL teams are seen as businesses by owners instead of what they are to 99% of people, cultural artifacts of their cities. The owners are aware of this fact too. That's how they are able to pray on the sentimentality of a city to scam them into buying stadiums for billionaires. The NFL would be well-served if more teams operated like the Packers.

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  4. Kelvin Hill
    Kelvin Hill 21 September, 2021, 14:03

    The Packers are superbowl contenders every year for the last 20 years…..yeah how terrible. Poor management I guess. Oh and Simms, the trade for favre was not a case of spending big. Over the top commentary by both here.

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  5. Joem8
    Joem8 21 September, 2021, 14:11

    The second they lose Aaron Rodgers. They will be a bad team and 6-10 or 5-11 every year for a while because of how passive they are.

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  6. Greg Bozek
    Greg Bozek 21 September, 2021, 14:32

    wow…jets…bills…falcons…panthers…dolphins…lions…bears…jaguars…bengals…cardinals…ect, ect, ect, and the really great franchises now, pats, chiefs, and packers…Brady, 6th round, GB , Rodgers, 24th pick, chiefs, 11th pick…no wonder the country has lost its ability to compete….if you say it, it must be true

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  7. Asiel Norton
    Asiel Norton 21 September, 2021, 14:33

    The Geenbay Packers are one of the most successful NFL teams in the history of the league. They are one of the most popular teams in the league. They do this in by far the smallest market. The comparison to Jerry Jones is accurate, which team has been more successful the last couple decades? The Packers obviously are doing it right. 31 teams have owners. 1 team doesn't, and it exists in the smallest market, the team has won several super bowls throughout its history, and has been in the NFC championship, and had one of the best records, the last two years in a row. Obviously they need an owner…

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  8. William Hermann
    William Hermann 21 September, 2021, 14:52

    Simms knows no boundaries when it comes to making excuses for Aaron Rodgers.

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  9. ThePackShack
    ThePackShack 21 September, 2021, 15:25

    For a Team that doesn't have an Owner, They seem to be doing Well for themselves…

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  10. L P
    L P 21 September, 2021, 17:08

    Trying to compare teams to each other in this argument based on only the final results is flawed because simply there are too many references that need to be addressed. First off Green Bay is one of the top teams in the NFL which means they are doing more things better than probably 90% of the league but now we have to look at them in the top 10% of teams in the NFL. Where do they fail in comparison? Free Agency and very poor defenses! In the post season during Rodgers career the Packers have given up an average of 30+ points per game which is horrific no matter who your QB is behind center. Basically the same thing happened to Peyton and Drew most of their careers. Defense wins championships and if you don’t draft great players you acquire them through free agency. It needs to be an ongoing thing to set yourself apart and truly be great which is what the front office of every NFL franchise is supposed to do and try to do. The front office of the Packers have failed time and time again. I think it’s part of the mid western attitude and mindset. It’s ok just to be ok and hold onto traditions and be conservative. To have two hall of fame QBs back to back with only 2 Super-bowls in return within a 30 year period is a disgrace to that kind of talent that is rare to find. The Packers organization has pooped the bed on this clearly. I’m disappointed in the way they have handled the last 30 years.

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  11. Reallyfast Golfyrunner
    Reallyfast Golfyrunner 21 September, 2021, 17:24

    Mike, you clearly don't understand what being a supporter of a team is. The key word is SUPPORT not criticize. We can't improve the chances of our players winning by criticising. We want to build them up and make them more confident so that they play better. You have the right to give your opinion, but STOP TELLING US TO BEHAVE THE SAME WAY YOU DO BY SINKING INTO NEGATIVITY AND CRITICISM! We know our teams failings but telling them doesn't help. What helps is positive re-inforcement of things that go well to remove self-doubt. In short SUPPORT by SUPPORTERS/FANS, which is what we are.

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  12. Cathy Norris
    Cathy Norris 21 September, 2021, 17:36

    The namesake of the NFL Championship trophy is the Lombardi….oh wait….wasn't Vince Lombardi the storied coach of the Packers….? Don't try and fix what ain't broke. The Packers aren't broke. Rodgers is.

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  13. Cathy Norris
    Cathy Norris 21 September, 2021, 17:43

    Pittsburgh has been holding onto Big Ben too long as he has declined. I guess that decision to do so may compromise the Steelers competitiveness this season…so you're making the argument for how much better it is to have a single owner structure. Yep….makes total sense?

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  14. beeseumz
    beeseumz 21 September, 2021, 18:03

    The story goes that the Raiders wanted to trade Moss for Rodgers

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  15. no one
    no one 22 September, 2021, 00:41

    Jerry Jones are you people stupid? Kraft had Brady land in his lap that's it they never payed anybody and won 6! What are these idiots talking about?

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  16. AYellowBarn
    AYellowBarn 22 September, 2021, 00:41

    I love watching rodgers sling it for the pack but as a fan I have been looking forward to a rodgerless future for years purely out of curiosity. There is a 50% chance we just become worse than the lions without an absolute legend at the helm cause that defense is dogshit every. single. year. they only succeed off of penalties and turnovers. rarely a 3 and out.

    it will be interesting to see of GB is an actual good organization, or if they have been lucky with elite QB play that bandaids all the issues with the team.

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  17. Tall Mark
    Tall Mark 22 September, 2021, 07:05

    As part "owner" I have been saying this same thing for years! It's time we have a real owner instead a room of a bunch of talking heads.

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  18. YouKnowWhyI'mHere
    YouKnowWhyI'mHere 22 September, 2021, 10:39

    This take is a stretch. They just signed Zadarius & Preston Smith. Adrian Amos. Billy Turner in 2019 and with a cut in cap could only resign their current roster in 2020 but those players were top in their positions anyway. They were guys if not on the roster teams would be fighting to sign.

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  19. ProfPolish
    ProfPolish 22 September, 2021, 16:39

    It’s already been mentioned in the comments below but I’ll state it again. Part of the Moss deal was Rodgers himself. Funny this is why Aaron doesn’t like the media. C’mon guys be better, do some homework before opening ur mouth. The idea of Rodgers being part of the deal rips your argument in half. SMH

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  20. Channel 22
    Channel 22 22 September, 2021, 18:14

    If anybody knows how to build a Superbowl team, it's these two. Look at all those Lombardi trophies behind them.

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  21. Austin Barnes
    Austin Barnes 23 September, 2021, 15:24

    Look at all the owners around the NFL that hasn't accomplished anything.

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  22. Matthew Rowley
    Matthew Rowley 24 September, 2021, 02:20

    Mike Florio with this constant, unfounded hit pieces about Rodgers are getting old. I don't know if this loser's wife screamed Rodgers name or what but give it a break.

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  23. KyOdOx
    KyOdOx 28 September, 2021, 12:14

    ive been saying this for the past 10 years the lack of ownership is killing the packers

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